tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post7106451738058888481..comments2024-02-02T12:19:39.504-07:00Comments on V for Victory!: The Crucifix versus the SwastikaAnita Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-14402539868971087002010-01-20T20:44:07.648-07:002010-01-20T20:44:07.648-07:00It takes such courage adn brilliance for Catholics...It takes such courage adn brilliance for Catholics to bash a person who is being gagged by their holy mother superior!<br />By the way, is there's NO ONE in your entourage to point out to "TH2" that his supposed "refutation" of my point totally MISSES the point I madeRayosunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463164128423431485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-49229862481945090072010-01-13T22:21:45.167-07:002010-01-13T22:21:45.167-07:00I do have to commend Ray for not coming back and p...I do have to commend Ray for not coming back and posting again after I told him he was no longer welcome to post here, and thereby forcing me to enable comment moderation.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-45977349293391590552010-01-13T22:20:48.186-07:002010-01-13T22:20:48.186-07:00JP, I'm glad you found the post helpful.JP, I'm glad you found the post helpful.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-39404003383593988602010-01-13T06:45:09.465-07:002010-01-13T06:45:09.465-07:00Wow! A great post that I will bookmark. And I on...Wow! A great post that I will bookmark. And I only learned of your blog today.<br /><br />We have recently awakened to our Jewish ancestress, who by their telling renders me and my daughters Jewesses. Imagine. <br /><br />In fact, I am a happy Catholic, but I find our historical connection to Judaism intriguing.<br /><br />A couple of weeks ago, dd#2 stood in front of the balcony in Vienna where Hitler (who btw excommunicated himself!) gave his big speech.<br /><br />It occurred to her that if my Jewish great grandmother had remained in Europe, she (my daughter) might not be alive today.<br /><br />Deep revelation to an 18yo...JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08433061807436268115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-33303560316796250312010-01-09T17:41:14.476-07:002010-01-09T17:41:14.476-07:00And thanks also to Bob and VSO.And thanks also to Bob and VSO.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-49368494126244916172010-01-09T17:40:41.197-07:002010-01-09T17:40:41.197-07:00TH2, I was just waiting for your contribution! Fi...TH2, I was just waiting for your contribution! First rate. <br /><br />Tribunus, thank you. Your post on the other side of the coin was also first-rate.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-54278886362645874552010-01-09T14:41:51.447-07:002010-01-09T14:41:51.447-07:00Anita, brilliant post from a brilliant lady!
Poor...Anita, brilliant post from a brilliant lady!<br /><br />Poor old Reverend Bigot Ray displays his self-contradiction once again.<br /><br />He pretends that German apostates are still Catholic but overlooks the obvious corollary that - by that reasoning - he, the "Rev" Ray must also still be Catholic, since he , too, is an apostate!<br /><br />Oh, well done, Ray.Tribunushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17330137792269530812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-50607006512417685322010-01-07T18:58:43.810-07:002010-01-07T18:58:43.810-07:00OK, Anita, TH2 insists that you let him enter the ...OK, Anita, TH2 insists that you let him enter the fray here... Alot of ignornace and conspiracy nonsense is shown with Ray, but I want to focus on and dissect one comment in particular:<br /><br />"Hitler recruited ...from the pews of the Catholic and other Christian churches of Germany, as 98% of Germans identified themselves as members of those churches at the time."<br /><br />TOTAL ABSOLUTE UNHISTORICAL CRAP!<br /><br />REALITY ENTERS: Statistics compiled and maps rendered of pre-World War II census data by the polymathic Austrian Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, in his classic work Liberty or Equality, The Challenge of Our Time (Caldwell, OH: The Caxton Printers, Ltd., 1952). --- One of the maps (Figure 2) exhibits the percentage of Catholics in Germany according to a 1934 census. The map clearly illustrates that the greatest density of the Catholic population is located in the southwest portion of the country and at its eastern tip. The remainder of Germany’s area is predominantly Protestant. Another other map presented (Figure 3) displays the percentage votes obtained by the Nazi’s in the election of 31 July, 1932. What is revealing is that the majority of the National Socialist votes were acquired primarily from those districts with mainly Protestant populations. If one were to superimpose these two maps (Figs. 2 and 3), it would be observed that for those districts where the Nazi’s obtained no or minimal votes, the agglomerated shape of those of regions almost exactly corresponds with where the majority of the Catholic population resided. What the statistical data reveal is that the Catholic populace did not vote for the Nazi’s. In fact, from 1920’s onward the Nazi’s received few votes from the Catholic population. For the Nazi’s to be elected, the nihilism had to reside elsewhere, namely in the Protestant electorate. Interestingly, it came specifically not from conservative Protestant sectors. Rather, it originated from the left-liberal, uncommitted “democrat” Protestant areas. In fact, a look at the number of deputies voted in elections during the Weimar Republic (May 20, 1928; September 14, 1930; July 31, 1932, November 6, 1932; March 5, 1933) shows that as the number of National Socialist deputies progressively increased from 1928-1933, the number from leftist-democratic parties correspondingly decreased, whereas those voted in from non-Nazi, conservative monarchist parties remained relatively unchanged.<br /><br />Keep drinking the Kool Aid, Ray, and thanks, once again, for all your virulent anti-Catholicism. One again, another buffoon demonstrates the Truth that is the Catholic Church.TH2https://www.blogger.com/profile/02375386482765377541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-74351616549555036342010-01-07T08:48:03.250-07:002010-01-07T08:48:03.250-07:00Ray: the final two syllables of your last comment ...Ray: the final two syllables of your last comment are absolutely correct.<br /><br />And when I say "your last comment," I mean your LAST comment. As in your FINAL comment. I've seen enough of you. Good bye.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-85122462398890447492010-01-07T07:17:09.131-07:002010-01-07T07:17:09.131-07:00My dear Anita,
You do understand, don't you t...My dear Anita, <br />You do understand, don't you that when you celebrate the heroism of Franz Jägerstätter, who was one of only SEVEN German Catholics who defied the pressure from HIS CHURCH as well as his government in order to refuse to serve in Hitler's armed services, the reason for his heroism is that all the OTHER German Catholics DID SERVE ?<br /><br />The putzLiberator_Revhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14207582050905012088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-58705449546538835042010-01-06T21:10:37.947-07:002010-01-06T21:10:37.947-07:00Hey Ray: you're really a putz.Hey Ray: you're <i>really</i> a putz.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-64786871024599889282010-01-06T21:02:45.962-07:002010-01-06T21:02:45.962-07:00My dear Anita,
Do you imagine that Hitler recruit...My dear Anita, <br />Do you imagine that Hitler recruited the hundreds of thousands of people he needed to carry out the Holocaust he got them from Mars? I've figured out to my shame that he got them from the pews of the Catholic and other Christian churches of Germany, as 98% of Germans identified themselves as members of those churches at the time.Liberator_Revhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14207582050905012088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-14154952293633073792010-01-06T19:43:35.032-07:002010-01-06T19:43:35.032-07:00Hey Ray: you're a putz.Hey Ray: you're a putz.Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-57678213511849452942010-01-06T18:01:26.686-07:002010-01-06T18:01:26.686-07:00If you're going to take credit for the Catholi...If you're going to take credit for the Catholics who acted WELL in the Holocaust, how can you avoid taking BLAME for the ones who acted BADLY, like Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Goebbels, Reinhard Heydrich, Rudolf Hoess, Julius Streicher, Fritz Thyssen (who bankrolled the Nazi rise to power), Klaus Barbie, and Franz Von Papen were all Roman Catholics, as were the heads of all of these NAZI countries : Leon Degrelle of Belgium, Emil Hacha of Bohemia-Moravia, Ante Pavelic of Croatia, Konrad Henlein of Sudetenland, Pierre Laval and then Henry Petain of Vichy-France. and the R.C. priest, Msgr. Josef Tiso, of Slovakia.<br />(who wasn't even defrocked after the defeat of the Nazis). Although these were among the most visible Catholic lay people in their countries at the time, did Pope Pius XII excommunicate a single one of them? NO. How can anyone say that this pope did "all that he could", when he failed to take this obvious measure so as to make it clear to the millions of Catholic faithful who were enabling the Nazis to carry out their campaigns of mass murder, not only against Jews, but against their fellow Catholics in Poland, that they should have no part in these monstrous of crimes and most mortal of sins? Apologists for Pius XII who claim that their crimes caused these people to be "automatically excommunicated" miss the point that excommunication isn't intended to tell GOD who is a Catholic and who isn't but to tell THE FAITHFUL whom to shun.<br /> On the other hand, after the Nazis were defeated and no longer posed any threat to the pope, the Vatican, or the Catholic Church anywhere, did Pope Pius XII allow the Vatican to be used to protect thousands of Catholic war criminals such as the above to escape punishment for their war crimes? YES. Whose side was the pope on?<br /> Here are some of the more infamous war criminals the Vatican protected from prosecution:<br />Adolf Eichmann, "the architect of the Holocaust", ,<br />Alois Brunner , referred to as his "best man" by Eichman,<br />Dr. Josef Mengele, "the Angel of Death" ,<br />Franz Stangl, commandant of the Sobibór and of Treblinka extermination camp ,<br />Gustav Wagner assistant to Franz Stangl,<br />Klaus Barbie, "the Butcher of Lyon" ,<br />Edward Roschmann, "the Butcher of Riga",<br />Aribert Heim, Mauthausen concentration camp's "Dr. Death",<br />Walter Rauff, believed responsible for nearly 100,000 deaths<br />Andrija Artuković, "the Himmler of the Balkans"<br />Ante Pavelić, head of Catholic Croatia, arguably the most murderous regime in relation to its size in Axis-occupied Europe. <br /> [ from <br /><a href="http://JesusWouldBeFurious.Org/NaziLeadership.html" rel="nofollow"><br />JesusWouldBeFurious.Org/NaziLeadership.html</a> ].Liberator_Revhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14207582050905012088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-86965533134935645122010-01-06T12:52:51.417-07:002010-01-06T12:52:51.417-07:00Huzzah!Huzzah!VSOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12400266818545081938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-57741220966740216482010-01-06T10:29:53.770-07:002010-01-06T10:29:53.770-07:00Anita, I don't have enough superlatives to pra...Anita, I don't have enough superlatives to praise this post, so I'll just say many thanks and God bless you for showing the truth again. When I was a kid in the late 40s and the 50s it was common knowledge that Pius, and many good Catholics and Protestants, did all they could to thwart the Nazis and their Godless regime. Keep reminding people!Old Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01678341854029479678noreply@blogger.com