tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post4916132158801617015..comments2024-02-02T12:19:39.504-07:00Comments on V for Victory!: If the World Hates You...Anita Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-90262273953819743882010-03-31T13:44:45.808-06:002010-03-31T13:44:45.808-06:00Just in case you don't know of Fr. MacRae'...Just in case you don't know of Fr. MacRae's case. <br /><br />http://www.thesestonewalls.com/<br /><br />There are tabs for the case history.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-54541517047334615862010-03-31T13:39:32.675-06:002010-03-31T13:39:32.675-06:00Anita ~ Perhaps if his health had been different, ...Anita ~ Perhaps if his health had been different, yes. However, the guy who started Life-Teen was a total renegade and ran around out of control. That's very different than a man who is removed from ministry and is obedient and remains where he is told to remain, healthy OR sick. So I woldn't go so far as to say that he wouldn't have been dispensed, because as a priest, he remained the responsiblity of the Church who could keep tabs on him and ENSURE it would never happen again. <br /><br />I haven't researched it, but I wonder at the number of priests who remain accused or even found guilty but haven't been dispensed from the clerical state. Are you familiar with Fr. Gordon MacRae? He's in prison, maintains his innocence, but has not been laicized...in spite of the criminal court's judgment and sentence. So why other very guilty priests but not Fr. MacRae? (whom I do believe is innocent, by the way) <br /><br />It would be interesting to really look into the different cases and REASONS for the laicizations versus those who ARE guilty or even judged as guilty...but remain priests.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-75437739893486285572010-03-31T08:43:00.806-06:002010-03-31T08:43:00.806-06:00Bob, I think you are absolutely right. I have not...Bob, I think you are absolutely right. I have noticed that when Protestants become Catholics, they still retain a certain affection and respect for their former traditions; but the same is not true of Catholics who become Protestants. Quite the reverse.<br /><br />Adoro, I daresay if the guy had lived, he would very likely have been reduced to the lay state, if it had anything to do with Cardinal Ratzinger. As Pope, he has certainly proven his readiness to impose that penalty: just this year, you remember, he dismissed the perverted co-founder of Life Teen, Dale Fushek, from the clerical state. Plus, I am willing to bet we will see heads roll in Ireland in the not-too-distant future.<br /><br />Best Holy Week wishes!Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-87316583005195670062010-03-31T07:11:41.758-06:002010-03-31T07:11:41.758-06:00YOu know, one of the things that keeps coming up i...YOu know, one of the things that keeps coming up is that Fr. Murphy was not laicized. The world looks at this as the "ultimate punishment" apparently. Yet...what would this really have done? He was removed from ministry. He was sick and dying. He was not a threat to anyone, and being dispensed from the clerical state is NOT akin to being held accountable and held to justice for his crimes. At least as a priest, he remained under the watchful eyes of others who knew who and what he was and could therefore protect others from him, and him from others, as it were. <br /><br />The world is scandalized by God's mercy and her orientation towards the salvation of souls. This goal far transcends anything else. Even as she works in the world applying what is proper in the earthly order of Justice, she does so with an eye to the eternal and an understanding of what TRUE Justice really is.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31669215.post-75847378666276113782010-03-31T00:58:18.239-06:002010-03-31T00:58:18.239-06:00Here's an idea for you, Anita, in addition to ...Here's an idea for you, Anita, in addition to all the good things you've said here. I formed an opinion many years ago that there's no anti-Catholic like an ex-Catholic. Allowing, of course, for some exceptions, I still think the rule holds true. Keep up the good work, and have a prayerful Holy Week and a Blessed Easter!Old Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01678341854029479678noreply@blogger.com